The American Civil War: Are we a better country because of it?
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First thing's first, I am from the south so if you think my answer is a little bias I apologize in advance. The American Civil War is still referred to by most southerns as "The War" also most true southerns (Including me) only acknowledge one president Jefferson Davis for those of you who might not know Jefferson Davis was the president of the Confederate States of America. Most southerners think that one day we will have another civil war because the south still wants our rights. Also some think the civil war was all about slavery well news flash the civil war was about keeping the union together slavery had nothing to do with it the first two years. General Robert E. Lee told Lincoln when turning down the command of the armies of the potomac that "... I never thought I would live to see the day that a president of the United States of America would raise an army to invade his own country." We southerners feel like we should have won the war.
We can not say for sure that the civil war made us a better country but ask almost any true southerner and they will tell you long live the Confederacy and we think that it did not make us a better country. We feel that we should have our own country to this day and most of us will go to the grave saying that we lived in the Confederate States of America. The rebel yell will never die in the south and no one can take our pride or our freedom away from us even though they tried from 1861 to 1865. We love our country and we will never let it go.
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The Civil War was about keeping the country together. The country wasn't together because the southern states wanted to preserve their "rights" to keep other humans against their will and treat them as cattle.
It's a rather shallow technicality, at best, to say the Civil War wasn't about slavery.
Contrary to popular beliefs there were slaves in the north and they were not free until Lincoln issued the Imancipation Proclamation(SP). Therefore slavery was not an issue until 1862 when Lincoln freed them.
The last northern state to allow slavery was New Jersey, which outlawed it in 1804. Slavery was an issue from the time of the first constitutional convention and was a huge and much debated issue throughout the entire country from the 1820's right up to the 1860 election and well before the Emancipation Proclamation.
Well tell me this if there was no state that allowed salvery in the north why did Missouri allow slavery when only half of Missouri was considered confederate even though Missouri never officially took a side?
Slavery was allowed in Missouri because of the Missouri Compromise, which has very little relevance to the Northern states, since Missouri was a border state and was actually considered a part of the west at the time.
All of which has absolutely zero bearing on the simple fact that the civil war resulted from the southern states' fear that slavery would be outlawed.
No slavery was a secondary issue at the start of the war but there are still people who are taught in schools that slavery was the only reason for the war when it was not. The confederacy was going to free the slaves also but Lincoln beat them to it.
"The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution—African slavery as it exists amongst us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with, but the general opinion of the men of that day was that, somehow or other in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away. This idea, though not incorporated in the constitution, was the prevailing idea at that time. The constitution, it is true, secured every essential guarantee to the institution while it should last, and hence no argument can be justly urged against the constitutional guarantees thus secured, because of the common sentiment of the day. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error. It was a sandy foundation, and the government built upon it fell when the "storm came and the wind blew."
Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth."
Sorry, that's your Vice President explaining the foundation and cornerstone on which the CSA was founded. Slavery "was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution." It just doesn't get much plainer than those two paragraphs.
So what you are saying is that everythign that vice presidents say is 100% truth?
The Real Tomato 3 years ago
Will the US ever be United? Probably not. I never heard of the quote you mentioned. Never thought of it that way. Interesting thoughts. And I think I saw Mike Hunt on Facebook :D